HeyScan email: Do Pads have any recourse with blown call tonight?

Q: Scan, can the front office lodge a complaint with mlb or will mlb automatically review that catastrophe of a missed call. – Downtown Chris


A: Hey Chris – Of course you are referring to the play that took place in the 2nd inning of tonight’s Padres vs D’Backs game where Joe West errantly ruled that Eric Patterson left too early in tagging up on a fly ball.

Short answer is NO.  This particular play falls under rule 7.08 (d), which states:

“Any runner is out when – he fails to retouch his base after a fair or foul ball is legally caught before he, or his base, is tagged by a fielder. He shall not be called out for failure to retouch his base after the first following pitch, or any play or attempted play. This is an appeal play;”

The key sentence being “This is an appeal play”.  Why is that the key point of the rule in this case?  Because the Diamondbacks did indeed appeal the play.  D’Back catcher Miguel Montero immediately flipped the ball to third baseman Ryan Roberts for the appeal. The umpire is not allowed to make the call unless it is appealed.  Had Joe West called Patterson out, or made any indication that Patterson had, in his mistaken opinion, left early prior to the defense’s appeal, then West would have been in violation of the rule book, and THEN Buddy and the Padres could have played the game under protest.

A team can protest a game for a rules misinterpretation or non-enforcement, but not for a judgement call.

As to whether the umpires will review the play for their benefit, and learning opportunity?  I know some umpires do look at plays after the game to check their accuracy…but who knows in this instance.

Thanks for the email, and for watching the show!

Scan

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310 Comments

  1. プラダ 財布
    July 5, 2013 at 1:00 am

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  2. プラダ 財布
    July 5, 2013 at 12:59 am

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    July 5, 2013 at 12:58 am

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    July 5, 2013 at 12:56 am

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  5. Candi Fitzgerald Salenieks via Facebook
    May 18, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    I “disliked” that the Pads had no recourse after that bad call. Sorry, I wrote that before I read any other comments & wondered if would be unclear what I was disliking.


  6. Byron Lovelace via Facebook
    May 18, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    a better question would be what do you “like”?


  7. Bob Scanlan via Facebook
    May 18, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    Candi – What do you “Dislike”?


  8. Candi Fitzgerald Salenieks via Facebook
    May 18, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    dislike!


  9. Byron Lovelace via Facebook
    May 18, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    @brandon, i missed your comment earlier… dead on. they’d love to put an * next to all the great hitters of the “steroid era” but somehow modernizing the game and losing the “human error” aspect is compromising? l-m-f-a-o total crap… the umpires union would be my first suspect.


  10. Byron Lovelace via Facebook
    May 18, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    Hector, honestly thanks dude. I can’t be alone on this, maybe I can be loud as hell but I know when I sit every saturday home game alone at the field level that the fans have had enough. I’m proud of my city and of my team, and this year I finally lost the “faith” I’ve had since I saw the world series that I can’t remember because I was 10 months old. “Insult” is a good choice of wording.


  11. jayman4
    May 18, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    What is really irritating about this is that the ump should not grant the appeal unless he is positive. And how can he be positive when he was wrong? Missed balls/strikes, safe at bases, fair/foul, HR/vs. not all of those require a decision by the ump. This case the default is let the play stand and only overturn if absolutely obvious. There should never be a missed appeal call. That guy needs to hang it up.


  12. Bob Scanlan via Facebook
    May 18, 2011 at 11:48 am

    William – Thanks for your kind words about my sticking around for future broadcasting work with the Pads, I hope I get to stick around too!


  13. Bob Scanlan via Facebook
    May 18, 2011 at 11:47 am

    William – I think the famous George Brett Pine Tar incident was a protested game, and the league did indeed reverse the decision of the umpires and allowed the HR.


  14. Bob Scanlan via Facebook
    May 18, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Brandon – Your point about Pads losing by significant amount anyway is true, but when play happened it was certainly relevant, but your commentary that Bud “has more credence to put it under protest” is moot because as the article states, protesting the game is NOT an option available to Buddy at all regardless of score or outcome- it’s a judgement call by the umpires so no protest would be allowed.


  15. William Bibaeff via Facebook
    May 18, 2011 at 5:51 am

    Oh, and Scan, I’m hoping you are back with the Padres as well, just ’cause I’m greedy and don’t want to lose a quality member of the Padres broadcast. :)


  16. William Bibaeff via Facebook
    May 18, 2011 at 5:51 am

    Scan, I’m wondering this: in the history of baseball, there’s been plenty of games played under protest. Have any of those protests actually amounted to something being done (most likely not the game outcome)? Because if nothing has, doesn’t a protest amount to little more than civil discontent which is forgotten in the course of a few days?


  17. Brandon Cline via Facebook
    May 17, 2011 at 11:33 pm

    This is all a moot point anyway. Yes, Joe West and Angel Hernandez both blew calls against the Padres. Yes, those two umpires who are perceived to be bad umpires in MLB fandom. Until baseball finally shakes off its (ridiculous) stodginess against technology, MLB teams just have to deal. This isn’t going to be the first time this happens. AND this happens in other sports as well. NFL, NBA, you name it. I’ve seen some baaaaaaaaaad decisions in those sports by officials. Key thing is we allowed the Diamondbacks to paste us with six runs. Had this been a 2-1 game, then Bud has more credence to put this game in protest. But since we gave up 4 more runs, this L is squarely on the Padres and Padres alone. No one else.


  18. Bob Scanlan via Facebook
    May 17, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    Hector – Thanks. Hope I am back with Pads next season, and that you will feel compelled to follow the team again.


  19. Hector Gastelum via Facebook
    May 17, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    but I will miss the Scanalisis, We will see you soon on ESPN or MLB Network.


  20. Bob Scanlan via Facebook
    May 17, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    Hector – no it was not, but many people asked if it could be.


  21. Nate Zack via Facebook
    May 17, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Now, personally, I would have liked to seen the Padres appeal the runner missing third every time the diamondbacks rounded third base and then ask West if he watched the play.


  22. Nate Zack via Facebook
    May 17, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    bad calls unfortunately do happen. Just prefer that the umpire at least be WATCHING the play when they make said bad call. Chances of West admitting he blew it ? slim and none and slim just left the building. In the end , one bad call should never make or break the game and the offense didnt get the key hits tonight, while pitching fell short. Its baseball. Lets get at it tomorrow, with the thankfulness that we dont have that crew following us!


  23. Hector Gastelum via Facebook
    May 17, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    did they play under protest? I stopped watching Padres baseball the past week. I do not feel like they are worth my time, and all of sudden they start to hit again… Too late, I already cancelled my Cox cable. But I don’t like the product or the ownership, that payroll is an insult


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